Think real estate. Russia is much much larger that Ukraine. Hence, it is a better investment for real estate morons like Trump and Witkoff and their ilk. So they approach the Ukraine-Russia war from that perspective: What can I get out of this conflict? Siding with the Russians is a financially safer bet than with the Ukrainians.
As ignorant stupid merchants, they blank out everything else: geography, history, national identities, international law, and of course something they don't have, ethics.
Putin is playing them for the fools they are. They think they can re-invent the wheel by simply wishing for something then using their "charm" to get it. Putin is by far a much smarter man than Trump, although they both are raging self-centered narcissistic dictators whose only objective in life is to be recognized by history as "Great men", like all the bloodthirsty criminals that wreaked havoc in the world with their invasions and conquests: Xerxes, Alexander, Julius ceasar, Genghis Khan, Umar ibn al-Khattab, Napoleon, Hitler..... Why do we as humans celebrate these monsters and thus encourage other criminals to follow in their footsteps?
Bottom line: Vance and Trump are afraid of Putin and know he's a bloodthirsty dictator. But they keep hoping beyond hope that he somehow can be converted. Deep down, they want Putin to keep undermining Europe and perhaps even to control all of Europe so they - Trump et al. - make a deal with him and detach him from his friendship with China. But in the process, they risk losing both Europe and Russia. Their wager is a stupid short-sighted hope, and as someone said, hope is not a plan.
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NBC’s Kristen Welker Asks JD Vance Point-Blank if the Russians Are Stringing Trump Along
His reply? Putin has "made significant concessions" to the U.S., Vance insists, and has "been willing to be flexible" on "core demands". Yet no one has yet to see or hear what those concessions are, given that Trump has repeatedly publicly conceded to all of Putin's demands on Ukraine.
Stephanie Kaloi
Sun, August 24, 2025
JD Vance (Credit: Meet the Press/NBC)
Russia is “not at all” stringing President Trump along, Vice President JD Vance insisted to NBC’s “Meet the Press with Kristen Welker” in an interview published Sunday.
Vance sat down with Welker for a lengthy interview and one of the first topics the NBC host tackled was ongoing war in Ukraine.
“I had the opportunity to speak with the Russian foreign minister,” Welker began. “He says as of right now there’s no meeting planned between President Putin and President Zelensky, and he added there needs to be an agenda first saying ‘This agenda is not ready at all.'”
At that Welker then asked Vance point-blank, “Are the Russians stringing President Trump along?”
“No. Not at all. I think the Russians have made significant concessions to President Trump for the first time in three and a half years of this conflict,” Vance said. “They’ve actually been willing to be flexible on some of their core demands. They’ve talked about what would be necessary to end the war.”
Though he admitted Russian officials “haven’t been completely there yet,” he said the U.S. is “engaging in this diplomatic process in good faith” and “trying to negotiate as much as we can with both the Russians and the Ukrainians to find a middle ground to stop the killing.”
Vance continued, “I think what the president has tried to do here is try to engage in very aggressive, very energetic diplomacy because this war is not in anyone’s interest. It’s not in Europe or the United States’s interest. We don’t think it’s in Russia or Ukraine’s interest to keep going. So we’re going to keep on pushing for a diplomatic solution.”
Despite Republican insistence to the contrary, the Aug. 16 meeting between Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin has been largely seen as a failure for the United States. “It is painfully clear that Trump is doing this to boost his tough guy image with his base. But that is going to be a challenge,” John Oliver told “Last Week Tonight” viewers.
“Because it is a tough sell for the man who was friends with a child sex trafficker, brought about this mess” — an image of the Jan. 6 insurrection appeared onscreen at this moment — “and on Friday got steamrolled by a bloodthirsty warlord, to convince Americans that he is keeping them safe, when I would argue, if anyone is making things too dadgum dangerous in this country, it’s probably f–king him right now.”
As if his assessment of Russia’s intentions was not enough, Vance also offered a history lesson of sorts.
“If you look historically, whenever you have a complicated war with a lot of death and destruction, it kind of goes in fits and starts. There are hills and valleys to the negotiation,” Vance said.
“We sometimes feel like we’ve made great progress with the Russians, and sometimes, as the president has said, he’s been very frustrated with the Russians. And we’re going to keep on doing what we have to do to bring this thing to a close,” he added.
Vance notably admitted the goal may not be to stop “the killing” — but to make sure the two countries find “middle ground.”
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